So it's not that they're literally slaves, just exploited and naive young women. I'm just an overly skeptical curmudgeon sometimes. It would be unfair to fake's story to guess that was happening here, but it's helpful to know from an expert as well that this is what it appears to be. Pollom: Thanks! I guess I'm just reacting to other stories I've heard about internet folks getting desperate messages from women in trouble that eventually turn into pleas for money (whether the girls are in trouble or not). There's a reason Pollomacho says he sees them weeks or months after they step off the bus, and not the very first night. Then rent starts costing, but not a big deal because they can sleep with that big roller and make enough in one night that would usually take them a week to make, and so it goes. after working several weeks at a strip club suddenly it doesn't seem so demeaning. They'll be encouraged to spend the money on frivolous things so as not to build up a savings, then you know, sometimes the nights are long and they're tired, so here's a little blow, and then after a couple of weeks the blow isn't so free, but they can strip, and look how much the strippers make.
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They'll probably be given free accommodations and be making a lot of money as legitimate hostesses (as legitimate as you can get at a Russian strip club at least). They're definitely being coerced into doing and it would appear completely voluntary if we did not know the eventual outcome. I have no doubt the men who are luring them to Lux Lounge are offering them a lot of money, pressuring them that this is their only chance and/or showering them with token gifts. I think the reality is much more depressing and what makes this so insidious is that the victims do not see themselves as victims. I (naively, I guess) thought traffickers were pretty careful to keep them isolated up to the point where they have no clear way out, in case they wind up having a friend like fake. Posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 7:29 AM on We can all keep our fingers crossed that the good outcome prevails - even then, these women face an uphill battle. Non-realistic outcome: a NYT reporter and the NYPD are contacted and they agree to go with the women, the men are busted for human trafficking, sex slaves are freed, front page headlines tomorrow. We won't read about this scenario, we'll just assume that this is what happens when/if they decide not to go. Good outcome: the women don't go, they find some marginal employment elsewhere, their lives are still screwed up from being effed over by these criminals, and they struggle to put all of the pieces of their lives back together. Yeah, we should keep this all in perspective.īad outcome: the women go to the strip joint and Fake does not hear from them again. It is just so fucking awesome to see people pull together like this. T shouting at somebody before turning a riding lawnmower into a cabbage cannon, but I can't help it. Which makes me feel a bit shitty, because these are real people and real stakes and not Mr. If there isn't one, I'd say this thread would be in rather poor taste. I'd also hold off on celebrating until we have evidence of a good outcome here.
Of all the institutions that came up, these are undoubtedly the most useless.)
(Incidentally, the suggestions to contact the Russian Embassy and Consulate in that thread would be hilarious if they weren't so sad. American trust in institutions is quite simply incomprehensible to most Russian people. If (c) is indeed the case, or is at least a major factor, you're almost certainly not going to be able to talk them out of anything. If anything, I'd vote for (c) whether you can really call it a cultural factor or not is up for debate. The only explanations I can come up with are a) that they were told about this and subtly pressured into it by someone they knew and trusted, making them reluctant to "let them down" b) that they had significant enough loans and financial needs back home that they would take any job at all for money, and are simply misinformed about the nature of the "compensation" c) the world of the "Russian mafia," while scary and dangerous, is simply less threatening to them than the world of American government and social-work institutions. I don't know about ethnocentric I certainly can't think of any Russian-specific reasons not to consider the possibility of trafficking in this case.
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